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nation's military. we heard the dire warning but what would it mean to our troops if deep cuts take effect at the pentagon two weeks from now? >> pleus the he made history at the olympics the double amputee known as "the blade runner". oscar pit tore just is arrested after his girlfriend was shot to death at his home. who was behind this brutal attack? we'll show you the video and tell you the full story. it is all "happening now.". jon: good morning to you, on this valentine's day. we begin with new questions about the fire that ended the manhunt for that fugitive ex-cop accused in a vicious killing spree. i'm jon scott. jenna: i'm jenna lee. we're awaiting the identification of those remains believed to be that of christopher dorner. the body was found in the burned out cabin in california's big bear
mountains following a firefight with police and a standoff that lasted for several hours. now police say they didn't intentionally set the cabin on fire. all this comes as we're hearing for the first time from the couple who say they were kidnapped by dorner just before that deadly standoff. william la jeunesse is following this story from los angeles. start with the couple of the. they have an incredible story. what are they telling us? >> reporter: jenna, this is another one of those jaw-dropping, i can't believe it revelations in this story. remember we thought this thing began unravel on tuesday for dorner when he was surprised by a cleaning lady and her daughter inside this vacant apartment in big bear? well we found out last night it was actually the owners, a long-time married couple, jim and karen reynolds who on tuesday showed up to get the unit ready for renters this weekend. dorner w inside. karen tried running but he caught her. bound and gag the couple upstairs and stole their car. >> he came in like with a
cord and tied it. >> extension cords. >> tied it around -- >> put a pillowcase over her head and tied the cord through the the mouth and tied it back real tight. >> i thought it was really the end. >> reporter: now you know they struggled for 15 minutes and finally got loose and called 911. the couple admitted they might have left the door unlocked which allowed dorner to get inside after he crashed his vehicle and watched his own manhunt on their tv all week. jenna: what an incredible twist to already unbelievable story in the worst sense, william. what else are we learning about the final hours, the standoff? >> reporter: san bernardino county sheriff, john mcman got peppered with questions last night on two fronts. number one, why were they only checking apartments or condos or cabins that showed signs of forced entry? by not doing so, that allowed dorner to go
undetected right under their nose a foot pool field from the command center. the second issue deals with the defending the use of this highly flammable canister known as a burner. last night the sheriff said they were not trying to intentionally set that fire but only to flush dorner out of the cabin. mcmahon identified the last of dorner's four victims, detective jeremy mackay, 35-year-old. 15 year veteran. leaves behind a wife and two kids and newborn. remarkably he was scheduled to play the bagpipes tomorrow at a service for fallen law enforcement. back to you. jenna: breaks your heart. i'm glad we're mentioning him today. we have to remember the victims. there is so much focus on the alleged criminal. william, thank you so much. more on the story as we get it. jon: an arizona woman accused of murdering hess her ex-boyfriend takes the stand in her own defense. jodi arias set to testify for a 7th day now. the defendant telling jurors
yesterday that the victim, travis alexander, abused her and repeatedly lied to her. harris faulkner has more from the breaking news desk. harris? >> reporter: jon, this story has taken so many twists and turns. people expressed the fact they find it hard to believe there could be these two different people living inside one person which is what the defense for jodi arias is trying to show. they will get back in the courtroom today as you just mentioned. what they're doing to trying to tear down the victim travis alexander through jodi arias showing they had a contentious relationship yet she craved him. he was of an addictive nature. i want to read a little bit what she said to jurors this week. he was very nice to me. he was complimentary. he would say nice things even when they were explicit they were complimentary toward me. there were times he was mean and i would be nice and he would be nice and i craved the nice from him. it was very sexually explicit in this courtroom. very difficult for some
people to listen to. some people who know jodi arias have gone so far to say they will try to prove she is lying. they know she is not telling the truth about her relationship with him. focus on the victim according to the defense team if they can show this was somehow out of defense, that she had been battered, abused but like many abused women will go back to the abuser, they think they have a strong case to get her off on a murder charge. she faces the death penalty in this, jon. jon: strong case. we'll be talking about. harris, thank you. >> sure. jon: arias is spending hours on the witness stand every day in her own defense in her murder trial. is she likely to sway anybody especially in the jury pool with this testimony or is she doing herself more harm than good? our legal panel will weigh in later this hour. jenna: we turn to business news today. a megamerger is set for takeoff with american and us airways about to team up and become the world's largest airline. some say that this move
could mean even higher ticket prices for all of us. casey stiegel is live at dallas-fort worth international airport with more on this hi, casey. >> reporter: hi, jenna. happening right now by the way a press conference that just started moments ago here at the dfw airport between american and us airways executives. we want to take you there live. pictures coming into fox news channel now where they're rolling out the details for the first time on camera to the press. prior to this event there was a teleconference held with american staff worldwide to fill them in on this deal and after executives addressed the media here, they will board a flight to arizona and meet with us airways employees because that is where that airline is currently based. but once this is all said and done, the new giant airline will all be headquartered here in north texas where american has been for years. it will keep the american airlines name and look taking delivery of more than 600 new planes in the
coming years. the big question, what does this mean for travelers? well more flight options on the east coast first and foremost where us airways already has a strong presence but fewer choices analysts tell us between major carriers will most likely spell out higher fares for you and me. >> the smaller the city, the smaller the regional and no competition you will see higher, much higher air fares, but look at jetblues, virgin americas, frontiers, spirits of the world, in those markets we're seeing competition. >> reporter: for now the two frequent flyer programs will remain separate. once everything is approved, signs, sealed and delivered, then the frequent flyer programs will combine together. by the way, this is going to take a long time. the entire merger process could take a year or more. a lot of agencies, a lot of people involved and have to give the green light. so experts are saying it
still will be quite a while before we start to see any changes in the air and here at the airport, jenna. jenna: still looking for a business model that works some of these airlines. pretty incredible. we'll keep an eye on this story, casey. thank you so much. >> you got it. >> the mother of a little boy kidnapped from his school bus and held captive in that underground bunker talks about forgiving the man who did this to her son. plus she tells about the special bond her son shared with the bus driver who gave his life to protect him. also, the looming sequestration cuts set to slash $46 billion from the military budget just weeks from now. what those cuts mean for our troops. we'll get into that next. [ anouncer ] ihop in time square to compare new griddle-melts to your usual breakfast sandwich. a lot more flavor. [ anouncer ] ihop's new griddle melts... made fresh and hot! hand crafted just for you. it's like a sexy sandwich. [ anouncer ] compare new griddle melts yourself. just $4. it's like a sexy sandwich. it's an epic breakfast sandwich.
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a prisoner he describes as schizophrenic. morales is still at large right now. the mother of the little alabama boy kidnapped from his school bus and held captive for nearly a week in an underground bunker says she foregives the man who did this to her son and did it early in the standoff. she also says the bus driver who gave his life protecting children in his care shared a special bond with the little boy, always encouraging him and cheering him on. a plea deal may be in the work for the canadian model accused stalking alec baldwin. the model was arrested last year for allegedly sending baldwin a series of e-mails and texts after a brief relationship. jenna: military leaders on capitol hill today warning of devastating consequences to the military if $46 billion in automatic spending cuts known as we know as sequester takes effect about two weeks from now. we're looking at march 1st as the date. this just comes a day after
the air force chief of staff said this. >> when the next major conflict starts, we will send our joint force to fight, regardless of how ready they are, and they will go and they will fight and they will die in greater numbers than they have to. the conflict will last longer than it should. civilian casualties would be more than we would like to accept. we owe them better than that. jenna: retired four-star general jack keane, former vice chief of staff of the army and a fox news analyst. do you agree with that? >> pretty much. history is actually on his side. after world war ii we gutted our military. we literally had thousands of u.s. armed forces, ground forces die unnecessarily in the beginning of that conflict. in vietnam we were not aready for that type of war post-the korean war. after the collapse of the soviet union we were not
level. we had to put all of that on fast forward. jenna: we were hering from the air force chief of staff tracking about future conflict but we're very much in a war right now and the military has to deal with budgets all the time when you're in a combat area like afghanistan. in your experience, nearly 40 years in the army, what happens during a time like this when there is some sort of budgetary crisis or concern in washington but you're on the battlefield? >> well, what they will try to do with the forces on the battlefield is continue to provide them with the priorities they need in terms of ammunition, and supplies and all the other necessary priorities. they will do everything they can to fence them. what will it impact on is those who were preparing to go. they will not have as many training hours, as many flying hours. ships are not going to be sailing to the same degree they did. we have the best technology in the world, best airplanes, best tanks, best ships, best submarines. but to maintain the edge you have to get out there and
use that equipment and you have to trainee effectively. ships must sail. our pilots must fly and ground forces have to train realistically at home to prepare for war. that's what is going to be cut back. jenna: you can't help but think about the military families that are going through that. sending someone into war without all the, the proper training, how can we look ourselves in the mirror if we're doing that? whether or not we're politicians or civilians standing by watching this. >> i think that's what the air force chief is trying to do to the american people and congress who are listening to them is try to bring this home a little bit. we talk about we'll not be ready. what does ready mean? jenna: do you get the sense people believe that though? that politicians are listening it that and take it in or do you think there is exaggeration of sorts? >> i think there is certain immunity there in a sense the defense budget is very large. listens service chiefs, if you talk to them individually their frustration is, they're not
immune or insensitive to the fiscal and economic crisis we have. they understand that. they know defense is part of that solution but they're only 19% of federal outlays. the sequester is the 50% cut. that's what theyhw resent, disproportionate cut the defense has to take. it added to the $487 billion cut they already agreed to last year. that is hugely forgotten by many people. jenna: just in your experience you're seeing this story happen again. we've sieve this happen as you mentioned repeatedly in and out of different conflicts. how does that make you feel, someone that served the country and you see a disproportionate amount of cuts versus how much is going out to defense? what does that feel like? >> well, where the feeling is right down at the level where the people will be asked to make the sacrifice. that is who we're truly letting down. because they will do the mission. that's what they signed up for. that is the kind of people they are, the kind of values and character they have. they will do the best that they can under the most
trying of circumstances. and that's who you really feel for. i think that is what the service chiefs are trying to express to the american people what this is about and try to humanize it. jenna: really quick here, what would be your advice? if you were called up on capitol hill and said this is where we can cut into defense, this is where we absolutely can't? where would you say. here is the opening. do it here but not in the other areas? >> 50% cut is intolerable but they have to have a better solution with the problem with the debt and spending program. defense can be a part of it but not at a 50% level. that is what you're hearing outcry about. jenna: point them to one area where they could cut? >> there is always places to cut. i would lead that to the service cheests to know how it do that. they have the details at the fingertips. i'm not trying to back away from the question. they know where to go to take some of those cuts. jenna: it is hard because we're sitting here as the american peel and you hear all the solutions and proposals, you wonder you have to think about the soldier in battle and don't want to make the wrong choice.
>> and pilots and people at sea. jenna: absolutely. can't forget the sailors, especially with my husband part of the navy. no offense with a army general. general keane, always good to see you on sense. good to talk to you. jon. jon: with my first lieutenant i'm very interested in what happens with the sequestration too. speaking of which, john boehner taking the stage in his weekly briefing. he will likely face questions about sequestration and his reaction to the president's state of the union address. we'll take you there live in washington. also, a woman on trial for murder takes the stand in her own defense for a 7th day. jodi arias trying to convince jurors she killed her boyfriend in self-defense. will they believe her? our legal panel weighs in on the strategy. >> he is waking me up in the middle of the night with a whole bunch of text messages. they're all unkind. he is threatening me. he was being a complete bully at that point and you i was tired of being bullied which would be fine if bob were a vampire.
jenna: some breaking news right now on capitol hill. house speaker john boehner delivering his weekly press previousing. he is going to be answering some questions. a lot of big topics on capitol hill. we were talking about sequester a few moments ago. we'll stay close to this. bring you any breaking new developments as they happen, comments that you should here. if you want to listen to the speaker live, you can do so at foxnews.com. jon: an arizona woman accused murdering her ex-boyfriend will not take the stand as we thought she would. the trial will not resume today because the judge is out sick. jodi arias has been testifying in her own defense, describing the victim as a violent abusive sexual deviant. let's bring in the legal panel. arthur aidala, former prosecutor.
fred tecce also a former prosecutor. welcome to both of you. >> thanks for having me. jon: we heard the little snippet before the commercial break. talking about tweets she got, i'm sorry, the texts she got very disturbing apparently from her ex-boyfriend. that stuff should be available to the prosecution, arthur. they can bring in those texts and prove whether or not she was really being badgered or abused by this guy, right? >> self-defense, jon. she is claiming self-defense. she is not going with the like a mental disease or defect. she is not dealing with extreme emotional disturbance. that means she is guilty or she is minimizing it or the sentence will be minimized. she is going, let me out of jail i didn't do anything wrong. if i didn't kill him he was going to kill me and i don't see how she's getting that point across. okay, he is a mean guy who wants to use her as a sex slave. okay, we got it. he is guilty on those facts but that is not enough. jon: seven days on the stand,
fred, that is a little unusual, isn't it? especially for a witness, i mean for the suspect in a death penalty case? >> i think it's incredibly unusual. what it tells me, jon, her lawyers can't control her. any lawyer would half a brain would have her on and off with two days, ma. she has been up there. she wants to keep talking. i heard someone call her the original chatty cathy. i think that is apt statement. the more she talks the more she buries herself. she spent seven days running this guy down like a dog, okay? her defense as arthur points out, that i had to kill this guy. guess what? people who kill in self-defense do it because they had no choice. the emotion you want to convey the jury i feel terrible reoars had -- remorse. i feel bad this happened. i had no choice but to do this. instead she blames the guy. the more this woman appears in front of a jury the tighter thes into gets.
-- the noose gets. jon: arthur, does she bring on some of his friends to rebut the character assassination on the stand? >> that is option, jon. not being in the courtroom it is difficult to get the pulse of what is going on. they may do nothing. in other words, if fred is right, if she is putting the noose around her own neck, you don't want to, i'm going to mess this up, pull victory from the jaws of defeat or one of those things? in other words, she may be winning the case for the prosecution by coming off as so unbelievable, so incredible, most importantly so unsympathetic, that a jury will take 15 minutes to convict her. >> yeah. they say this prosecutor is supposed to be really aggressive. he is supposed to be a real pitbull. this may to surprise if you're going to be a bear you might as well be a grizzly. if he is smart, he goes after her on the stuff he has to hit from her on cross-examination. keeps it short and keeps it tight and gets off the witness stand. talk about destroying
evidence. all the lies she told. she says the guy is pedophile. did you ever tell the police? did you ever go to a single human being in the world. stabbed him 27 times, cut his throat and tried to destroy the evidence. good luck. jon: you don't get the sense arthur she is doing herself a whole lot of good staying on the stand so long? >> i would file it under desperate times call for desperate measures. so you know, as criminal defense attorney as full-time job, you never want to put your client on the stand because you have to. that shifts the burden from the prosecutor to the defense whether you like it or not. if you do you want it quick, tactical strikes. in and out, on and off. here this is just desper operation, her attempt to like, maybe two jurors will like me and there will be a hung jury and we'll see what happens down the road. i just, it doesn't seem like she is connecting with the jury. who knows after casey anthony, jon, who knows? jon: early in the hour, that is --
>> this isn't casey anthony. jon: well, but it is quite a story at any rate. early in the hour we thought that she would be testifying again today. she will not because they have canceled court proceedings because the judge is out sick. we will certainly keep our viewers updated on this very strange story. arthur, fed, -- fred, thank you both. >> thanks for having me. jenna: what a nice story on valentine's day. maybe the judge said, it is too ironic. no court today. jon: i hadn't thought of that. jenna: just bringing some of that. jon: reading some of the testimony it is pretty disgusting. jenna: it is tough to talk about. we'll bring it back to politics. the senate showdown over the nomination as former senator chuck hagel as defense secretary. republicans are threatening to block his confirmation. apparently he doesn't have the votes. the latest from capitol hill. we'll get the update on that. he made history as the first double amputee to compete in the olympics. oscar pistorius is charged with murdering his girlfriend. more on the breaking news
elizabeth. what do we know right now? >> reporter: we know police took the olympic star, oscar pistorius into custody after they found a woman shot at least four times in his south african home. he may have mistaken steenkamp a intruder. she reportedly planned a valentine's day surprise for her boyfriend. south african police service is investigating the early morning incident. >> we have taken cognizance of the course of the morning of an alleged break-in ore the young lady was allegedly mistaken to be burglar. obviously our forensic investigation is still ongoing. we're not sure where this report came from. it didn't come from the south calf can police service. our detectives are on the scene. you're forensic investigators are on the scene. >> reporter: they acknowledge a series of domestic receipted calls in the past but refused to elaborate.
south african has the second highest rate of shooting deaths in world and high rate of the assaults. he was in a affluent, secure part of pray tore you. he tweeted himself in a shooting range of november 2011, bragging about his score. jon: it was a violent place when i was there a decade or so ago. this is getting all kinds of media attention, right? >> reporter: absolutely the media is all over the story. pistorius is olympic star. he made history at the london games last year as the first double amputee to compete in the olympics. both his legs were amputated before he turned one. he is one of south africa's most famous athletes. the so-called "blade runner" campaigned for years to be be a loud to compete with able bodied athletes. in 2012 he was cleared to compete with the world's top sprinters. only six months ago they were watching him on the track but tomorrow they will follow him from the courtroom.
jon? jon: what a story. elizabeth prann keep an eye on it for us. jenna: more on the story as we get it. a crucial vote is expected tomorrow over the president's pick for our nation's next defense secretary. nominee chuck hagel will be put to the 60 vote test. senate majority leader harry reid cuttings off debate, calling for lawmakers to make a decision. now republicans are threatening to block that vote saying they have some unanswered questions. a few of them spoke with our mike emanuel, chief congressional correspondent. first start off with what harry reid, the top democrat in the senate is saying about all this. this morning he was quite emotional about what is going on. till us about that. >> reporter: jenna, that's right. harry reid has 55 democrats in the senate who would vote to move forward with the chuck hagel nomination, confirmation process. the bottom line though he needs 60. so he needs five republicans to come along to get past that procedural hurdle. he doesn't have those five. so harry reid is frustrated. >> mr. president, in less
than two hours our country will be without a secretary of defense at a time when we have a war going on in afghanistan, and about 70,000 troops there. we have a nuclear weapon was detonated in north korea. >> reporter: a nuclear test was done in north korea and 66,000 troops in afghanistan but you get the picture. these are serious times and so harry reid and the democrats say, we need a secretary of defense and soon, jon. jenna: point well-taken there. what are republicans saying about the nomination? what are they telling you and what about this delay, this potential delay? >> reporter: well, jenna, several leading republicans tell me they think chuck hagel will ultimately get through based on the strength of democratic support. they're holding out because they want more information what the president president did the night of the benghazi attack, 9/11.
they want that information. they want the texts of speeches for chuck hague gill five years. they feel like they have been stonewalled. here is lindsey graham, a republican on that side of the story. >> i remember very well what the congress did when it came to bush administration failures. we provided oversight. if the shoe were on the other foot, and this was a republican president, i guaranty you there would be a lot of democrats doing more than i'm doing. i know what? they probably should. >> reporter: as everybody is counting votes there is lot of attention how susan collins republican of maine would vote. she came out yesterday and said she could not support chuck hagel as secretary of defense. there are only a couple of republicans on the record in terms of supporting hagel. bottom line, looks like he will get to 60 after more information is provided to the republicans but for now they're holding out for the info. jenna: interesting, mike. thank you. jon: for more on all of this let's bring in bob cusack,
managing editor of "the hill." harry reid and some of the democrats would have us believe, bob, this is just extraordinary business going on in the senate. that the world has never seen this kind of thing before. is that true? >> well, they are saying that this is the first time it's happened to a defense secretary but there is history for other cabinet nominees as far as filibusters. regardless this will be a very, very close vote. i think there is some senators to watch very closely. senator lisa murkowski as well as senator bob corker who heads the foreign relations committee, who is the ranking member on the foreign relations committee. those are two republicans that could shift things. the magic number as mike emanuel is five. looks like they have got two or three. lamar alexander, another one that will be key in this cloture vote. but i do agree that ultimately, chuck hagel is going to get confirmed. we may see some late-breaking news where the white house, if they think, well, we don't have the votes. we'll give some more information to senator john
mccain and lindsey graham. it is also interesting to note, jon, lindsey graham is someone who supported obama supreme court nominees. he clearly is opposing hagel here. jon: primarily what a lot of these senators want is information on a number of fronts, especially on the benghazi attack. what happened, how muc did the white house know, how involved was the president? that's what they're looking for, right? >> yeah, that is what they're looking for. they did ask some questions of hillary clinton about what she said to the president. their talks that night. they want more information as far as what, what was happening that night as these reports were coming in that christopher stevens and others were in danger. what was the white house doing? they want more details on it. until they get those details senator john mccain said looks like he would support the filibuster. earlier in the week he was saying, suggesting he wouldn't. but he wants more answers. until he gets the answers looks like hagel could be stonewalled at least for this week. jon: how interesting and maybe ironic that the
pivotal vote or the pivotal decision is being made by the guy the president obama defeated for the white house the first time around, john mccain. >> that's right. after that election, a lot of republicans thought that mccain and obama would form some type of an alliance. that mccain would work with the white house. that has not happened. mccain and obama do not get along. mccain has complained that over the years the white house would not reach out to him on immigration reform. so mccain now working with other senators on the democratic side and republican side on immigration. there has been no alliance between john mccain and president obama. jon: again so interesting that a former republican senator is getting held up by primarily by people he used to be arm in arm with, his fellow republicans in the senate. >> yes. jon: we'll keep an eye on this story. bob cusack from "the hill." thank you. >> thanks, jon. jenna: u.s. general john allen announcing he is retiring as nato supreme allied commander in europe. was it his decision? was he pushed out? what is the real backstory
jon: coming up new next hour, looks like the end of the miss rememberry -- misery cruise. they're back in port after spending days in does gifting conditions. their ordeal may not end once they set foot on land. new signs iran is ramping up its nuclear program. what scientists reportedly purchased that could speed up their ability to produce nuclear weapons. today is valentines's day in case you didn't know. i will tell you where to find a chocolate surprise for your sweetheart. are you ready for that, jenna. jenna: i'm ready for that.
police are looking for the public's help to find booting suspects. it started as scuffled between teens when they turned and around beat up security guard who tried to break up the fight. the incident happened last month. authorities are releasing video now in hopes of tracking down some of these teenagers as they could face some serious assault charges. now despite suffering several punches the security guard was not seriously injured. they still want to find who these teens are. jon: we're getting new information about general john allen's plans to retire, as nato's supreme commander in europe. this decision avoids what could have been a heated reconfirmmation battle. that likely would have raised the issue of allen's e-mails with tampa socialite jill kelley. you remember all that? involving the former head of the cia general petraeus? national security correspondent jennifer griffin is live at the pentagon. what is the latest you're hearing about general allen and this decision, jennifer? >> reporter: well, remember,
jon, general john allen was supposed to leave as the top commander in afghanistan and got to become the supreme allied commander in europe but that's when the jill kelley e-mails interfered with that. there was a pentagon inspector general investigation into those e-mails. eventually he was cleared by that investigation. so it looked like his nomination was going to go forward but our white house correspondent, ed henry, heard from sources yesterday that in fact general allen was being pushed out. that he was in fact not going to be renominated as the supreme allied commander in europe and go to nato headquarters. that he in fact would be retiring. the defense department is pushing back on that characterization suggesting that leon panetta, the defense secretary, met with general allen just days ago. here is what panetta said yesterday. >> the opportunity to meet with him yesterday. my recommendation to him was,
take your time, you know, be with your family. think about what you need to do. i think your country will always fine a way to make use of your great services but you've got to make the decision as to what you want to do in the future. >> reporter: again the pentagon is not confirming that general allen is out and no longer, in the running for that position, or that he is retiring. however, sources that ed henry has spoken to say that the general will be retiring and that he has taken his name out of the nomination process for that four-star position in europe because he worries about a bruising confirmmation process that would bring up these jill kelley e-mails which were, which we were told at the time were inappropriate and, would be embarrassing if he had to be questioned about them. jon? jon: all right. so what happens next? and in leon panetta is leaving the pentagon, who makes these decisions?
>> reporter: well, leon panetta was supposed to be leaving the pentagon and his successor, chuck hagel is now caught up in a confirmation difficulties on capitol hill. as you know there was a filibuster yesterday. it is unclear whether they will be able t manage the number of votes needed to pass him as defense secretary. just a few moments ago here at the pentagon leon panetta said his office is packed, he is ready to go but we're told by senior defense officials that he will remain in place and remain in police place until his successor is approved and sworn in, jon. jon: interesting. i guess the california retirement will have to wait for leon panetta. jennifer griffin at the pentagon, thank you. jenna: new information on foreclose sure in our country. the new numbers and what they could mean for the housing market overall. plus a baby boy's life saved. it's a heart-warming story, literally for valentine's
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jon: a baby boy born with a condition that made his heart rate speedway up is alive today thanks to what doctors call a freezing treatment. little edward ives was born with a heart rate nearly double of that a typical infant. he had a 5% chance of surviving. doctors sedated him and wrapped his body with a blanket filled with cooling jell for four days. that lowered his body temperature. eventually his heart rate slowed to a normal pace. they were able to bring his body temperature back up. now we're told he is home and doing well. let's talk about it with dr. kevin campbell, a cardiologist and assistant
professor of medicine at the university of north carolina. this is a procedure that you have used yourself, that right, doctor? >> yes, sir. we call this induced hypotherm yu. what we do is cool the body to 92 degrees in children and adults with patients suffering cardiac arrest or other conditions which impair blood flow such as a fast heart rate like the child had. jon:. a 300 beat per minute heart rate, that is what the little boy had. >> yes, sir. we see super ventricular tacky card yaw in children and adults. in neonatal it occurs 5% of the time t can be life-threatening. it is very important to intervene very quickly as these folks did in the u.k.. jon: so his body is chilled down to a body temperature, normal we know is 98.6. they took his body temperature to 91 degrees?
why does that not do damage to the body? >> the way it is down, it down regulates the rate at which the cells in the brain and the other organs use flute treents and process waste. so in a sense it allows time for the doctors to give therapy for the super ventricular tachycardio and allows cells not to die so we preserve knew logic function. we know from a study in the "new england journal of medicine" in 2005 this is first line therapy for out of hospital cardiac arrest in adults. jon: after four days his heart started beating normally, 160 beats per minute is normal for a newborn? they got him to that rate. they were able to bring his body temperature back up and look at him now. six months old. his mother says he is perfectly happy and healthy and, everything is good. it is absolutely an amazing story. got to make you happy to be
a doctor when this kind of thing happens, huh? >> it is. it is so gratifying to see the things we work so hard to provide for our patients return an outcome like this and i think the cooling therapy certainly served to lower the heart rate in some ways and it also i think probably resulted in preserving knew logic function in the time in which he was having low blood pressures and cardiovascular collapse with the. jon: obviously at six months old he can't really talk yet. you can't totally evaluate him. what do you think about the future? is he likely to suffer any long-term problems instrument of all this? >> i think he is probably neurologically intact and going to be able to function normally. i think at some point he will have to have his tacky card yaw addressed. we can perform procedures called cardiac where we take electrical cath they ares into the heart and find an
abnormal area and cure the patient forever. jon: a got of this was caused by the fact he was born prematurely. the heart probably wasn't ready to do the job it was called upon to do when he was born at 35 weeks? >> sometimes we are born with these extra pathways that bypass the normal wiring of the heart and that was probably a contributing factor in this particular case. jon: all right. it's again a fascinating story. dr. kevin campbell, from the u.n. c cardiology department. thanks very much for being with us. >> thank you for having me. happen valentine's day. jon: and to you as well and to the little boy's mother says, all i wanted to do was scoop him up and give him a warm cuddle. jenna: i can imagine after the last couple days. jon: he was wrapped in icy blankets. jenna: what a cute little boy when you see him. what an amazing story. there are some new developments in the iran nuclear standoff today. iran is saying it is making
some real advances towards nuclear power and a nuclear weapon. our government responding. joining us next hour a former spy who snuck into iran will give us his perspective what is going on and what we should be doing about this. plus another delay for thousands of passengers on the cruise ship stranded at sea as people on the carnival triumph deal with deplorable conditions. we'll bring you the latest from sea just ahead.
jon: brand-new stories for a brand-new hour. a long trip home for 3,000 stranded cruise passengers just got even longer. the arrival of the carnival ship towed to alabama pushed back amid stories of horrific conditions on board, families anxiously waited on the dock. we are live in mobile. and even more headaches nor boeing after the dreamliner nightmare, new problems with the most, most used passenger plane, the 737. also the fallout.
and the stunning story of an olympian who captured the world's art running on his state-of-the-art prosthetic legs. oscar pistorius charged with murder in the death of his model girlfriend. it's all happenin "happening now" " well it looks like it's almost over, but -- >> fingers crossed, right. jon: for them. the dreadful journey aboard a crippled cruise ship is getting worst. they expected to escape their five-day nightmare this afternoon. i'm jon scott. jenna: might take a little longer than that. we have breaking news in the second hour of "happening now." a carnival spokesperson saying the ship will not reach shore until as late as 11:00pm tonight. passengers are stranded on the triumph, they are describing these dismal, filthy conditions, limited access to food, limited access to bathrooms. even when they finally make it
to shore late, late tonight, they have a long bus ride to look forward to apparently. jonathan serrie is live in mobile, alabama with more. jonathan, what are we hearing from passengers today? >> reporter: well, jenna and jon we have just learned that the ship has reached a sea buoy in the main khafpblt ordinaril main channel. ordinarily they would be in port within three hours. because this ship is disabled and under tow it will be an additional seven to ten hours for the triumph. many families have arrived out here at the cruise port in mobile, alabama, many of them in cellphone contact with their loved ones. we spoke with one couple who have a daughter on board the triumph, listen. >> she said the conditions is terrible. they had water but it was brown water. they had no bathroom to use. the food has been cold, and it's just been an awful trip, awful trip.
jenna: we are going to try to see if we can get jonathan back. it's always easier if we can hear the reporters on scene there. as you heard from jonathan they thought that the boat, the ship would arrive in just a couple of hours, but because it's under tow it's going to take a lot longer than that. a lot of you have been asking questions about you know if you can get other ships out there, why can't you just take the passengers off the ship. we've heard in the past over the last few hours, the last couple of days, jon, is that it's actually dangerous to do that in the sea. jon: now jonathan knows how those passengers feel, he's talking but no communication. jenna: right, there you go. we just wanted to act out the story as best we can. there is the picture of the ship. a lot of anxious folks hoping to get off. and then they've got to get on this bus to get to the closes airport unless they have family that is there to pick them up, like that mother we just heard from. we'll keep you updated on the story you can think about yourself in that situation, you
know, what would you do, right? as you can imagine a lot of passengers may be thinking about some sort of legal action again the cruise line. we've heard these stories before. what us the past? how has the past been precedent potentially for lawsuits? our legal panel will take that up in a little bit. jon: right now the budget battle blame game is panning out across the capitol hill sounding the alarm on looming automatic spending cuts set to kick in two weeks from tomorrow if there is no deal reached before then. here is homeland security chief judge andre janet napolitano. this would negatively affect the mission readiness and capabilities of the men and women on the front lines. jon: republicans, though are pinning the blame squarely on president obama and the g.o.p. is quick to point out that this bad idea of a sequester as mr. obama called it during his
state of the union address was the president's idea in the first place. >> i've made it perfectly clear, though, the sequester, i don't like it, no one should like it, but the sequester is there because the president insisted that it be there. where is the president's plan to replace the sequester that he insisted upon? jon: well the political theater playing out in the media. on nbc news on its website political hot potato g.o.p. trade blame with obama for looming sequester. u.s. news & world report, obama plays public against g.o.p. on sequester. in the washington times, sequestration, angry obama lamb bastes g g.o.p. for agreeing with them. chief political correspondent carl cameron joins us live from washington now. all right, so they have this hot potato rolling, any sign of compromise, carl? >> not even close. both side are pretty much dug in
and making the point that we all agreed to do this and republicans say democrats aren't coming clean and democrats argue that republicans are the same. on the left democrats continue to insist that the solution to all this deficit spending and debt is actually more taxes. tom hark kin the soon to retire senator from iowa put it this way just a little while ago, watch. >> if we're so rich why are we so broke? is it a spending problem? no. it's pause we have a miss allocation of capital. a miss allocation of wealth. all of this wealth that's been built up by hard-work americans have been accumulated in fewer and fewer and fewer hands all the time. and then we have a tax code that is skewed toward the wealthy. >> reporter: well the administration sent a number of its department heads to testify before congress. he told them he thinks the solution is more taxes.
senator patti murphy of washington is working on a alternative to replace the 85 some order billion cuts that would take place this year. it amounts to $60 billion in new taxes and $60 billion in spending. republicans have pronounced the patti murray idea dead on arrival and the g.o.p. makes the point in the last couple of months they already approved $650 billion in tax hikes when in fact the obvious problem in deficit spending is the word spending, jon. jon: $85 billion, so, if that is what senator murray is talking about that doesn't seem like it's a very deep cut given the size of our budget. >> it's not. listen if you're one of the department head that could be facing a big cut it's about 2.5% per department it's significant. the $85 billion in sequester cuts is 2.4%, 2.4% of this year's annual $3.6 trillion annual budget. if you compare this 85 billion-dollar cut to the
actual $16.4 trillion debt it's half of one percent. its kind of hard to figure out if you're trying to stop all the red ink what they are going to do. this year's annual deficit is estimated to be $850 billion. if you like to look at it that way $85 billion in cuts would be only clearing out about 10% of this year's shortfall. jon: thank you for breaking down the numbers for us. what a country. carl cameron in washington. thank you. >> reporter: lots of red ink in it. jenna: new troubles for boeing as it now warns airlines about the next generation of 737 aircraft. we've heard a lot about this aircraft, right? this all happened, all these stories after battery meltdowns on the dreamliner jet grounded the entire fleet worldwide and now we are at another chapter in all of this. dan springer is live in seattle with more. dan. >> reporter: jenna, first the good news, it's not even close to the trouble that the 787 is facing, but boeing has put out a safety bulletin to airlines about some engine problems that have happened on the 737, next
generation planes shortly after particular off. 32 times over the last five years the planes have experienced some vibrating or osculating in the engine. in one case both engines were affected and the pilot turned the plane around and landed. boeing says the engine's instability usually disappears after a few seconds to a couple of minutes, and pilots have for the most part just continued their flights. alaska airlines has had the most cases. the problems have all been on flights that have taken off on the west coast. boeing says they think it could be due to fuel contamination and so they are looking at the fuel supply chain, particularly here at ctac which is a hub for alaska air. boeing has notified the federal aviation administration and so far there has not been any safety warning or directive to come out of washington d.c. these incidents have been rare since 2008 when the 737 next generation plane was launched it happened once for every 23,000 flights. the planes have flown 23 million
flights so far. every time the problem has occurred the engine is inspected and the fuel control unit has been replaced. the 737 is boeing's work horse aircraft and really its moneymaker. they are building 38 of these planes a month in seattle to keep the pace with the incredible sales. last year the company sold a record 1,031 of them and delivered a record 377. obviously it's important for boeing to identify what the problem is and fix it as quickly as possible. jenna: fix that as quickly as possible for this one plane, dan, anything you can tell bus the dreamliner as well? is that just sort of stagnant right now as far as what is going on with the investigation? what can you tell us about that? >> reporter: well, boeing is continuing to do test flights. they started that over the weekend. they got their first test flight okayed by the faa and the ntsb, continued their investigation. they still have not pinpointed the exact cause of the battery issues and so boeing is trying to take test flights up and run tests on those lithium ion
batteries to see if they can determine what that is. right now that it at status quo and the grounding of the 50787's remains intact. of course that is a big issue because that's the last generation of planes that boeing has made and so it's important for them to get that cleared up as well. they've got 800 of those planes sold. jenna: wow, two different lines. dan you're becoming quite the boeing expert by the way, very impressive. as always it's a big story to watch, big company, thanks, dan. >> reporter: sure. jon: fox news alert we've been telling you about that disabled cruise ship that is limping to mobile, alabama right now under tow. juliana hare is a passenger on that ship. it has been without power since last weekend, she is still on board and joining us live by phone. juliana, it's my understanding you're 12, is that right? >> yes, sir. >> all right. tell us about what happened and what conditions have been like
for you on board. >> okay. well, we were on the ship, and at like 5:30 it started -- this was some smoke on the engine, and so we didn't have power, and we've just been, you know, just sitting, and like they kind of like ran out of food. jon: oh, boy. >> yeah, we had to have like three ships come out and we had to have three ships come out and they delivered some supplies for us, and like before they came we had cheese, tomato and lettuce sandwiches. jon: that's kind of it for food? what about the bathrooms? we've heard reports that the bathroom situation is pretty bad. >> yes. jon: you don't have to get real
graphic. >> okay. well, there is no bathrooms at all. on sunday there's no bathrooms at all. and then they tried to work on it, and so finally they got a few bathrooms working, but the line was like an hour long probably to go to the restroom because everyone had to go. but it was just horrible, it really was, it was miserable. jon: and i imagine, you know, if the engines aren't working well you probably don't have a whole lot of electricity for things like cabin lights and so forth? >> yes, no, we have -- we have an interior room, and so at night we have no lights at all, at all, so we open our door and the emergency lights are helping
us see, that's all we can see. and we have five people in our room, and it is very crowded too, so we're all hot, and there is no air, and it's just horrible. jon: you're looking forward to getting off i bet, juliana, huh? >> yes, sir, we are. jon: go ahead. >> some of the people from our room, it was so hot that we had to get out -- outside into the hallway, and they have it outside on like where all -- they brought all their sheets out, and so it's like tent city, it's horrible. jon: camping out. juliana hair, 12 years old on board that ship, thank you for sharing your story with us. they say you'll be back today. we hope so.
>> now is the time for a diplomatic solution because a coalition stands united in demanding that they meet their obligations and we will do what is necessary to prevent them from getting a nuclear weapon. jenna: president obama at the state of the union repeating his warning to iran when it comes to its nuclear ambitions. also this week there is a new report in the "washington post" that says iran is trying to get its hands on tens of thousands of highly specialized magnets that are used in center tpaoupblgs. what does that all mean? that means that iran is seriously ramping up it's nuclear program and could shorten the timeline needed to build a nuclear weapon. it certainly got our attention. we have a former cia operative and a fellow for the foundation for defense of democracy. raul we'll get to the news in ha
moment. you have quite an interesting story. after your time with the cia you decided that you were going to sneak into iran. tell us a little bit about that experience. >> well, i mean quickly put, i had sent others into iran, and i had not gone myself, so i sort of wanted to flip it, and i wanted to find out what it was like to go into iran under somewhat difficult clandestine circumstances, and i did discover that it was fearful. jenna: fearful. >> yes. jenna: can you tell us a little bit more about that? how long were you there, by the way? >> i was there for a week. i went in via a truck from eastern turkey, and it was an eye-opening experience, i wrote a book about it, but i wouldn't necessarily recommend it for everyone. jenna: well considering your skill set we'll just leave it at that, reuel. so few people have been inside
this country. we talk on a weekly basis about their move towards nuclear weapons. they say they are not but of course that is what is assumed. what is your take away from the latest news, not only the warning from the president again, but this latest news about the magnets, center tpaoupblgcentscenterfuges inside of iran. >> one, we fear that china has been a preeminent smuggling point for the iranians, that seems to reinforce that suspicion. we still don't know whether the iranians were successful in their objective to get these magnets, it could increase their centerfuge production enormously. and two, it does reinforce the concern that i think everyone has had that the iranians are aiming for a break-out capacity, which is essentially undetectable. that is by the time you figure out that they are moving to
highly enrich uranium you couldn't possibly check it military or by any other means. jenna: on that, how good is our intelligence do you feel coming from inside of iran to know exactly what is happening inside the country? >> i'd say it's probably pretty weak. i think the best intelligence is gathered by the u.n. watch doug. i think there are other electronic means to provide some assistance but i doubt seriously whether we have human sources in the program that provide current and valuable information. jenna: we are continuing to watch this story, again only based on reports, but one that can be significant in iran's move towards nuclear weapons. great to have you on the program today. thank you for the time. >> my pleasure. jon: i was thinking about sneaking into iran for a vacation until he told me it's not a good idea. jenna: he kind of waived you off that. i could get a list of nice
places you could try. maybe iran, the weather is not good this time of year. jon: not going to go there. an olympic run store made history is now charged with murder. the double amputee who became known to the world as the blade runner arrested in the shooting death of his girlfriend. now police are saying there were previous incidents at his home. plus, we are hearing tales of horrific conditions and board the carnival cruise ship triumph. if you were stuck on that ship for almost a week would you sue? could you? our legal panel weighs in straight ahead. [ male announcer ] ah... retirement. sit back, relax,
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that ship. this is new video as it is being towed into the port of mobile. it has none of its own engine power after a fire in an engine room on sunday. that left the ship basically stranded, power and navigation and plumbing all not in working order. passengers describe horrible conditions that are getting worse by the hour, overflowing toilets, soaking carpets and piles of plastic bags with human waste lining the hallways. long lines for food. you could be waiting up to four hours and then maybe get an onion sandwich. no air-conditioning, making it too hot to sleep in your cabin there in the gulf of mexico. many passengers are sleeping outdoors on deck, so for carnival what is the legal fallout here? let's bring back our legal panel, arthur aidala a criminal defense attorney and fox news legal analyst, fred t icc ee is a former prosecutor. i'll start with you, fred a lot of people are probably going to
be dialing up their lawyers when they get back to shore. do they have grounds for a lawsuit here? >> they are horrible, horrible conditions, jon and someone will have to be made to walk the plank. there are fins to the left and the right but i think the real sharks are on the land wearing wingtips and suits and waving their suitcases. there are a lot of lim limitations you have to keep in mind. this happened in international water. maritime law could apply. there is a contract people sign when they get on these boats. they limit liability. as body as this sound and no matter how much pursuit hungry people want to file lawsuits i'm not sure where it will get them at the end of the day. jon: arthur what do you say and are you wearing wing tips. >> i never wear wing tips. this is another story. the cruise companies are covering themselves because the law states they are the ones that are responsible. so it is carnival cruises, and
everyone who owns them whatever legal entity it is, they are the ones who are on the hook, they are on the hook in federal court a hundred percent. if it's easier for the person who is suing to bring it to the state court there are exceptions where you can bring it to the state court as well and they will have to proof, the plaintiff, the passengers are going to have to prove that this fire was caused by negligent, in othenegligence. if somebody snuck into the engine room and blew up one of the engines or intentionally started one of the fires, then the cruise ship has a legitimate defense, but if it's just based on lack of upkeep, lack of maintenance, then they will have a case, the plaintiff will have a case, but fred is right, the tickets for these cruises are usually pages long, and they describe the limits on liability based on your injuries. jon: last i saw carnival stock was down about 5% based on the payouts they'll have to make to some of the victims or passengers and also probably just the mass publicity.
let's turn our attention cas -- sorry to interim. let's turn our attention to this other story the weird one out of south africa. oscar pistorius charged with the murder of his girlfriend. apparently she was shot a number of times while in his house. now everybody is wondering, was this some kind of a valentine's day surprise that went bad? she was sneaking in to give him a kiss on the cheek or was there something else that happened here. what do you make of this one, fred? >> i'll tell you, it's a very unfortunate -- because arthur makes his living as a defense lawyer and he's very good he'll tell you not to rush to judgment but that's not going to stop me. there are things here that trouble me tremendously. first of all we are hearing reports there have been a lot of disturbances that the police have been dispatched at this house on a number of occasions for domestic dispute. eyewitnesses say they heard screaming and yelling and there was a falsess cull pa torre
fallsess cull pa torrey story leaked by i don't know who, and this woman was shot four times so there may have been some passion involved in this. i don't think it looks good for this guy. jon: arthur you are a defense attorney. what do you offer in this case? >> first of all you're talking about two wonderful people here. i mean both in their individual fields were topnotch, so it's really a tragedy, it's really a very sad story. you can't blame the guy, you can't convict him, you can arrest him but you can't convict him based on prior domestic violence calls. you can't convict him -- jon: you sure can raise an eyebrow. >> you can make an arrest. they made an arrest my understanding is based on witnesses, neighbors heard immediately before the shooting. i would think because you're dealing with people at this level, this is an international celebrity to some degree, before they put the handcuffs on they've got to make sure that
they have pretty good evidence. his defense team i would say has their work cut out for them, and -- >> separate and apart from the body and four bullet holes, you mean other evidence in addition to that? >> look, i would say that there is going to be a medical expert, somebody who has no legs is going to be a little bit more quick to pull a trigger and to defend themselves if they think there is a true intruder in their home than maybe somebody who is able to just take off. you don't know the circumstances. is he lying in bed where easy mobile before he puts his blade runners on? jon: it's a weird story we will continue to cover it as the details come out. fred tees see, arthur aidala, thank you both. jenna: we'll take a live look at the dow, figure out what is going on wall street. slightly lower today when you look at stocks. we have weekly jobless numbers out. we'll take a closer look at what really is the impact of high unemployment and what is that having on all of us? we'll talk a little bit about that coming up. also it's a day for romance and
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plaguing the nation for years. foreclosure filings last month plunged to their lowest level since april of 2007. that according to realtytrac. harris faulkner has more at the breaking news desk. harris? >> the breaking headline for this story comes from a spokesperson for realtytrac. quote, we're well past the peak of the foreclosure crisis, end quote. as you may know realtytrac is known for compiling detailed information and marketing distressed properties across the nation. so people in the industry take this seriously as a sign of change. here are the numbers we're looking at. notices of default, scheduled auctions and bank repossessions, all indication as property is in trouble. the number of those cases fell to 150,864 last month. that is a seven% decline from the previous month. here is the bigger number that may matter most. we're seeing a 20 rate% drop from -- 28% drop from
january next year. new filings fell to the lowest level since 2006. we should note for balance here, this does not mitigate one huge problem for millions of homeowners across the country. their house, many, towns, cities are underwater. meaning the value today is worth less than the mortgage they owe today. we're seeing some prices of homes go up but the longer people feel stuck in those house, the more temptation and sometimes necessity there is for them to foreclose. so there is still more on the horizon but the numbers are definitely headed in the right direction. jon? jon: harris faulkner at the breaking news desk. thank you. jenna: from the housing market to the job market now, new numbersfl?b=aw
during this is chocolate. here forever. not going anywhere. now having ability to personalize it, why would anybody give regular chocolate anymore. it tasted look, looks good. memorable. a feel good gift from the heart. this is. jon: you found this in your business too, that your business has been growing over the last couple years. tell us a little bit what it is like to be a business owner right now and what the year ahead looks like for you? >> well the-year ahead looks good. our business is recession-proof. chocolate is not going anywhere. billions are spent a year on chocolate. the personalized niche. this bumps up to something special. people are looking for something new, different creative. that's what we have. we have a saying --. jon: sorry to interrupt. you had a close-up shop. is that a business card someone printed out? >> this is a business card somebody printed. you're memorable when you give your business card in chocolate. paper card goes in the back,
they nowhere to find you after you have taken advantage of a business card. edible images, text, we do everything. the idea why would you have anything else that isn't personal? take as moment. jenna: that is the question jon wants to know. >> it is delicious. did you want my to have some right now? i eat my chocolate every day. jenna: your business is going good. maybe that is a good tip for everybody out there. >> it is. we are an international company. we are now an international company. we are actually in dubai. we have a store. we have stores opening. but you don't have to have a store in order to find us. we're in everybody's living room. we're just a quick a -- a click away. tasty image is on the net. jenna: that is best chocolate i ever had. thank you so. >> thank you so much. thank you. jon: chocolate is forever. jenna: forever. >> a bachelor party gets out of control and, no, it is not what you think. a groom to be, stuck on the
carnival triumph with a bunch of his friends. whoa, sounds like trouble. we'll talk to the fiance. plus a look at federal safety standards for school security after the deadly shootings in newtown, connecticut. we'll talk with the secretary of education. great, everybody made it. we all work remotely so this is a big deal, our first full team gathering! i wanted to call on a few people. ashley, ashley marshall... here. since we're often all on the move, ashley suggested we use fedex office to hold packages for us. great job. [ applause ] thank you. and on a protocol note, i'd like to talk to tim hill about his tendency to use all caps in emails. [ shouting ] oh i'm sorry guys. ah sometimes the caps lock gets stuck on my keyboard. hey do you wanna get a drink later? [ male announcer ] hold packages at any fedex office location.
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jenna: it was supposed to be a pleasure cruise. it is not that way for many people on board. look at the carnival triumph trying to make it to shore in mobile, alabama. a lot of folks on the boat. we talked to a 12-year-old little girl a little while ago. we talked to amy weber. her boyfriend chad is on the boat he was supposed to be on a bachelor party, amy. got off the phone with him. tell us what he told you. >> well, you know, he found
as positive as can be expected. he said that, you know, he made a point to say that the crew is being as helpful as possible. he said that people are really, you know, stepping up. you know, this is a really great group of guys. i know they are, you know, helping people that need help. it is just, the elderly, the small kids. that is really, the people i know he is worried about. he's getting water. he is being fed. they're just exhausted. jenna: i can imagine that. we heard that there it has been very difficult to get contact with your loved ones. >> yes. jenna: is this the first time you were able to speak with him or heard from him over the last couple days? >> you know, it has been a couple days since i've been able to speak to him. i was able to get a text message last night, saying that they were going to be in today. of course now there has been another delay.
probably four to five-hour delay. so it is going to be, you know, if they get in by midnight, i, i hope, you know. jenna: we showed a map. you're talking to us from san antonio, texas, is that right? >> that's right. jenna: we hear they will get into mobile, alabama, hopefully before midnight. but then we're being told they will potentially get on a bus to go somewhere from there? did he tell you anything else about what it will look like to get home? >> he said, once they actually, reach land, it is going to take about four hours just to get everyone off and processed and all of that. then, you know, they have given different options of, you know, they can stay in, they have hotel rooms reserved, stay in a hotel, wait for a flight or get directly on a bus that will take them straight back to galveston. jenna: did he tell you anymore --, he said they were getting water. did he tell you anything
more about the conditions on the ship? >> he said his room, by coincidence, didn't flood, but pretty much all the rooms, toilets had overflowed. the showers wouldn't drain. the hallways are just, it is just muck. it's sewage. you know, they're living in sewage. and he said that, you know, there are people who are, he said he heard people have had strokes and heart attacks. he said, that you know, they have gone from, you know, the heat being so awful, he said that now, last night that they were freezing, and now they're really cold. so --. jenna: did he say anything about the medical supplies? did they have what they needed? >> it sound like, you know, people are sort of frantically trying to get, people need their heart medication, blood pressure medication. i think they have been able to, you know, dispense as much as they can but, i mean
it's just a bad situation. people are suffering. jenna: absolutely. we're seeing that ship kind of come into shore with the new video. did he wish you a happy valentine's day despite all this? >> he did. he did. jenna: i hate to bring it up, but it is today and i'm sure it was nice to hear from your boyfriend on valentine's day and hear his voice and know he will be home soon enough. amy, thanks for the information. we appreciate it. >> thank you. jenna: we'll be back with more "happening now.". i was in the ambulance and i was told to call my next of kin. at 33 years old, i was having a heart attack. now i'm on a bayer aspirin regimen. [ male announcer ] be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. i didn't know this could happen so young. take control, talk to your doctor.
hill today we've been watching testimony from members of the administration talking about the consequences of this for their own departments. we'll talk a little bit about the department of education next. the president is actually in is touring an early childhood learning center near atlanta. the visit comes days after his state of the union address when he called on states to make pre-k education, so education for 3 and 4-year-olds, available to every child in america. joining us now is the secretary of education arne duncan, stepping out of that hearing for us. secretary duncan, thanks for coming back on the program. >> thanks for the opportunity, jenna. jenna: tell us about the prekindergarten education plan. how much does it cost to get 3 and 4-year-olds into a program like this and how much does it cost to taxpayers and why is now the right time to make that investment? >> this is really a big deal. i was so pleased to see the president make an emphasis on the state of the union. jenna, study after study
shows us the best investment we can make to get our young people prepared to enter kindergarten. every doll are you spend you get 7 or $8 in return. we have to make sure our kids are ready to learn, ready to read. we have to make sure those that don't have opportunities have access to them. washing working in partnership with states. a chance to get some more children ready for school is a great thing for you are nation to do? jenna: do we have a price tag on that? this would be free to some families and subsidized by the government? how much would it cost? >> we'll come out with budget details when we release the entire budget. long term we think is the best investment we can make. many states invested to increase access. there is still tremendous unmet need. families struggling to do the right thing for their children, we want to make sure they have a chance to get to a great start. jenna: secretary duncan, the economist wrote about this. they quoted a federal study
on 5,000 children with head start program, this would be in addition. those children hit early education by the time they hit third grade they were not doing better academically. they were having more behavioral problems. the economist says the question mark about impact and invest in more better kindergarten classes and first grade classes than in prekindergarten programs. your thoughts on that. >> first of all my partner kathleen sebelius doing great job increasing quality at head start. whether it is head start, pre-k, we need the children entering kindergarten ready to learn and ready to read. we have to make sure this is high quality. when we do that is life transforming opportunity. jenna: real quick because we talk so much about school security and you think about 3 year-olds and 4-year-olds going into school and wanting to protect our most haver inable. you were head of the chicago school district. they dealt with violence. how much federal money is
allotted to school security? what is being invested in when it comes to school security? >> well, we're investing very heavily but part of what the president and the vice president are asking congress to do is to increase the investment that we can make. so at the federal level, at the state level, the local level, speaking first and foremost as a parent of two young children we have to make sure our children are safe. whether or not it is head start program, elementary school, middle school, higher education we have to reduce gun violence in it country. we have to keep our children safe. jenna: let's talk specifically about that i was in israel and took a look at israel there. i will share the story with our viewers next week. i put together a package. they have armed guards in their school. does the department of education have an official stance on having armed guards in schools around the country? >> arming a bunch of teachers makes no sense whatsoever. what we want to increase resources for schools, whether school resource officer, a social worker, a counselor, a mental health
professional, help with after-school programs, those decisions are best made at the local level by parents and principals. not by us here in washington. we want to increase access to resources so people make determinations at local level. jenna: the schools on a local level, do have armed guards, not armed teachers, do you have any thoughts about that as the secretary of education? >> well i think, sometimes it is effective. look at virginia tech, they had a security force there. didn't stop that from happening. you have columbine. they had security officers. again we have to take a comprehensive approach to reducing gun violence. schools are often the safest places in neighborhoods and communities where the vast majority of violence happens. we have to take honest comprehensive look how we have fewer children living in fear of gun violence in this country. jenna: very important perspective for us, secretary duncan on big ideas out there. we look forward to having you back on the program and continuing the conversation. thank you so much.
>> thanks for the opportunity. have a great day. jon: well the ship is coming home but not exactly in triumph. the triumph stricken by an engine fire, being towed back to port, the port of mobile. 4,000 passengers who have endured really an awful week. we will start to hear their stories when that ship finally docks. we'll have it for you live here on fox.